Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda Tonic Health Benefits - Ted's Q&A

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Posted by Jade on 05/17/2007

I have a few questions in regards to the remedies suggested on the earth clinic website: 1. have been taking ACV alone without any problem until adding baking soda which causes abdominal pain throughout the night. 2. is it ok to take vitamins that have alkalizing minerals included with baking soda even taking them at a different time? is it possible to over alkalize the body with supplements? 3. currently taking magnesium dimalate structurally similar to ACV combined to baking soda? do I need to alternate mag and ACV due to the malate content? 4. is it ok to use ACV alone for long term and will it make the body too acidic if baking soda is not for me? 5. currently wanting to add another antioxidant from pine bark. is there such caution as to too much antioxidant? Thank you for your time to answer my questions. Jade

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
383 posts

1. Abdominal pain if added with baking soda often means that the body is too acid, baking soda is contaminated, or the stomach is too empty and you feel too hungry, so the stomach acts up. The other is the body's lack of magnesium. Electronic pocket pH meter can answer some of those questions. I had one person with your condition and found to be severely acid, where urinary pH were between 4-5, as a result the body reacts STRONGLY with the baking soda. The way to prevent it and get within normal range is to lower the dose by 1/2 or 1/8 and slowly increase it until a normal range is reached. Most people who are in this region often are overworked and the body becomes extremely acid and that urinary pH is reflected, and the body becomes "burned out", which are actually a good expression.

2. In general, there is no way most people can tell which minerals are alkalizing. The only way scientists know for sure is to take it, and THEN measure the urinary pH, one by one. There are clues, of course such as minerals on the left hand side of the periodic tables, but then you must be finesse with making an electrolyte solution, more so than a mineral supplements. An electrolyte solution that is biologically compatible is the Ringer's Mammalian solution, but this would be too complicated in practice. Therefore, a simpler one is ACV baking soda, or lime juice (or lemon) plus baking soda. The best electrolyte solution without the headaches and the least problem is actually a good quality sea salt, added at about 1/4 teaspoon of sea salt in 1 liter of drinking water. The pH of sea salt is in generally averages close to the blood pH.

3. Apple cider vinegar has both the acetate (when reacted with baking soda) and malate. The reason why it smells bad is the acetate. Acetates gets rid of intracellular lactic acidosis, while malate give you the energy. Citrates are a bit low in ACV, which is why you sometimes may alternate with whatever you are doing (dimalate) with ACV, and lemon formula.

4. Long-term ACV cannot be answered since this depends on your body's biochemistry. For most people whose urinary pH is within normal range in general and taking that still stayed the same, would be generally ok. However, I had seen one who did take ACV and caused acid tongue, as his body was deficient of bicarbonates. The acid tongue condition was so bad it was burning his tongues apart, literally. Upon taking only baking soda for two weeks and a mouthwash, he became normal, and thereafter he took the ACV baking soda.

5. Pine bark extract at least for me is often used when there is the need for it. I don't usually take supplements in general if I feel my body doesn't need it. Monitoring that is not easy, but this is the only way to do it. Certain minerals have a tendency to accumulate in your body, while certain ones do not, as to why each are like these, means we have to know whether the body is already overloaded with toxic heavy metals, which can often prevent good minerals from getting into the body. For example, constant mercury contamination from drinking water (or vegetables) may displace selenium and taking selenium will never result in the body's increase in selenium, but does displace and reduce the body's mercury.

Replied by Jade

Ted, 1.lower the dose by 1/2 or 1/8 and slowly increase it until a normal range is reached. Did you mean ACV or Baking Soda that I need to cut down here?

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
383 posts

You reduce the baking soda to about 1/8 teaspoon. The apple cider vinegar 2 tablespoons stays the same. Make sure to add water of 1 full glass if 1/2 glass resulted in upset stomach. In practice, certain people with extreme acidosis, need initially less baking soda, with gradual increase until the body is used to it. Electrolyte imbalance is also implicated, so magnesium and potassium supplements are also recommended in instance of abdominal pain also.