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Regimen for Multiple Treatments

on 05/13/2006

Question for Ted about nail fungus remedy. I just want to make sure that I understand the regimen that I'm supposed to follow. My understanding is that after my morning shower I should soak in the vinegar/H2O2 solution until no more fizzing. After that is done, then soak in the clorox solution. Rinse and dry and then apply the vaseline/Tee Tree Oil and wear throughout that day until the evening? Now this is where I'm getting confused. Is it that same night that I reapply the vinegar solution and then reapply the vaseline/tee tree oil for another 24 hours? During this whole process, I'm only using the clorox at one application? I'm very eager to try this, but just want to make sure that I do it correctly because I've tried so many other things with little success. And one last question...how do you know it's worked after just 3-4 days since it takes so long for the nail to grow out? You certainly wouldn't see any nail growth in that short amount of time. Thanks in advance for all the answers!

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
392 posts

During the night after you do the vinegar/H2O2 and soak it as long as possible, you dry it, then follow this with a clorox solution (optional). Then rinse it and apply vaseline/tea tree oil during the night. This would be the best way. So in the morning you will repeat these steps again. As a rule of thumb you need to repeat all of this at least twice a day, but I am not that strict on this. You can do it 3 times a day, but I prefer to leave the clorox out after 2 times a day.

Now I need to tell you some theories behind this treatment. The big reason why toe nail fungus treatment don't work because of all your past effort is that the fungus is located behind a toe nail. So regardless of whatever medication they will give you to kill it, you won't be able to kill it since it is protected by the cuticle of the toe.

There are two strategies which you can do to go behind it. One is to find a chemical that is penetrant enough, and yet safe to go behind the cuticle. Which is usually vinegar and the other is clorox. Vinegar goes deep into the skin and goes around the nail. Clorox gives of a chlorine gas that also goes right through the toes.

Now the others that is quite good but I don't recommend such use due to difficulty of use but quite effective is the use of weak hydrochloric acid of 5%. When you soak this it give of hydrogen chloride gases that goes right through the toe nail too. But the bad part is that it stings after several minutes. But the reason why I don't recommend this more effective route is that acids are generally harder to work with (for you), and it is hard to find. I have not lived in U.S. for some time now, but you might be able to find this ingredient in certain bathroom cleaning products.

The other thing while you are mixing H2O2 and vinegar is that you can strengthen the formula further by adding boric acid. But this does not help much since it is not a penetrant. Another option that I am playing around with recently was the use of a 10% -20% copper chloride solution. However a weak solution has to be kept or painted near the toe and leave the solution on throughout the day. A fungus as a weaknesss of copper chloride even in minute amounts and it is this reason why chloride solution is also effective.

The downside of all this for most people is that copper chloride are hard to obtain. It is also a good alternative to clorox due to safety issues of using copper chloride but obtaining them is another matter.

However, if you can get copper chloride and make a 10% or perhaps a 20% solution (rather weak) you can use this and paint it on the toes and toenail on and leave it throughout the day. While it won't penetrate through anything, a miniscule amount to reach behind it is all that is needed to kill the toe fungus. Adding some dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO) might help penetrate some, but not totally. Another idea is to get soak them in a copper chloride solution as substitute for the use of clorox solution. The beauty of this idea is that you can use it as often as you like and you may not be limited to using clorox to only once or twice a day. Twice a day is the absolute limit for clorox use due to chlorine not being good for you if used in excess. An old wives' remedy for toe nail fungus was to put an glove of garlic in the foot throughout the day. The dimethyl sulfide content is a strong penetrant and will kill the toe nail fungus also. However, this is impractical due to its odor and putting it between the toes can really be itchy. However it does work in many cases, at least that was what I heard when I was very young. Some were so desperate as to paint Coal Tar solution (20% in ethyl alcohol and polysorbate) on the foot. That worked too, but as you know long term use over a week is not practical as coal tar solution are cancer causing. However, I have seen people treating and actually riding of toe fungus through such use. The reason why it worked is that coal tar solution is a strong penetrant and kills fungus to some extent. However, mixing an antifungal solution of copper chloride would have been a more effective method. This method requires only one daily application, not because it worked better but because of safety issues of the use of coal tar solution. So while you have tried many things, you can wonder how many more things I have tried. And I can conclude that there are many effective ways of riding it, but the big problems for most people is obtaining the necessary stuff and the most easiest ones are not necessarily the most effective one, but it does work. The exception of course is if I sell the product to you and that would work, but I am not engaged in the business of selling any product.


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