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Water Ionizing Machine

Posted by John on 11/02/2007

Hi Ted, I just read an amazing article you wrote regarding alkalinity and various meters to check various stats. I am contemplating the purchase of a Kangen water machine ($4K). When I test my ph with urine strips I always tested more acidic (5.0) and had gum bleeding and soreness from time to time. Three years ago I started juicing green vegetables (kale, spinach, parsley, dandelion, garlic, cucumber, celery, etc.) and noticed my skin improve and my gum irritation improve significantly. I believe this because I am now less acidic and also consuming an excellent source of vitamins. By the way, I also take supplements. I have had challenges with absorption of proteins and minerals and started including a broad based digestive enzyme with meals. MY QUESTIONS ARE: 1) Although I am still acidic (maybe 5.5 aver. now), should I not go to the more extreme and purchase an expensive water ionizing machine? 2) Where can I purchase the body test equipment you mentioned? Thank you so very much

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
383 posts

Dear John:

1) Although I am still acidic (maybe 5.5 aver. now), should I not go to the more extreme and purchase an expensive water ionizing machine?

How well the ionizing machine works depends mostly on the amount of bicarbonates and salt is available in your local tap water. Basically the ionizing machine works by displacing mostly, the salt NaCl (in your tap) with the water molecules to form Sodium Hydroxide on the antioxidant end, and the Hydrochloric Acid on the oxidizing end, where chemical equations, basically is H2O2 + NaCl - NaOH + HCl

However, electrolytes also forms and react with trace Hydrogen to form a hydride metal compound, which is a negative form of hydrogen on one end, while the positive hydrogen reacts with another halogen on the oxidizing end. Assuming there is a presence of Magnesium, in a more simplest possible explaination (it actually reacts with magnesium carbonate and magnesium bicarbonate but this is an oversimplified version:

Mg++ + H2O - MgH2 + O

Ca++ + H2O - CaH2 + O Zn++ + H2O - ZnH2 + O

... etc.

The antioxidant end will have ppb to ppm (parts per billion to parts per million) levels of hydride on the Kangen water. In healing water, or sacred water that exists throughout the world having an amazing healing properties are attributable to mostly to the hydride form of hydrogen. In fact using a small amount of hydrogen gas in areas of open wound can have an accelerate healing quite quickly too.

As is well known in hydrogen fuel cells a hydride metal of any kind, where boron hydride and magnesium hydride is quite stable in water solution, it is mostly stable whenever the body is in alkaline state. This means on the antioxidant end, the NaOH (sodium hydroxide) plus MgH2, CaH2, and ZnH2, for example are stable in water solution and allows the body to utilized them as an antioxidant products namely because of their very low ORP.

But this negative ORP can easily be challenged with just an alkaline form of vitamin C such as sodium ascorbate, where its measurement, of a consumable 7-8.5 solution of vitamin C (or ascorbic acid with plenty of added baking soda) are just as or more so than an antixoxidant drinking solution such as Kangen water.

Hence, I would buy a Kangen water, if I am rich and have a lot of money to throw around. Realistically, I will probably never buy a Kangen water since I believe other methods are just as effective and the price are simply astronomical, at least for me. So I have to consider other options just as effective.

Therefore, I would prefer to take more CITRATES to effectively get the pH to more alkaline. Citrates decomposes to bicarbonates, so I can consider the citrate to be the most effective form of alkalizing available to raise the urinary pH to 7. In fact, the effect of Kangen water to effect an alkaline urine pH is minimal if you compare side to side with a citrate. A citrate is simply a resulting reaction between a lemon or lime with a baking soda. Mostly you will get a sodium citrate, at a pH of about 8. If one half teaspoon to one teaspoon of sodium citrates were taken for example, regardless of how low the urinary pH, assuming a man of average weight and height. The urinary pH will jump from 5.5 to 7 within an hour. But a Kangen water can't do this, and it won't have the sufficient buffers needed to stabilize the body pH. You might wonder HOW am I going to compare Kangen water, if I cannot afford a Kangen water. This is because I know how to make Kangen water chemically, by either posibbly bubbling a hydrogen gas in an alkaline very diluted sodium hydroxide solution where the pH is between 8 to 10, in presence of calcium and magnesium bicarbonate. Or if I am lazy, I might add sodium borohydride (which degrades to negative hydrogen). A microhydrin product uses the similar technology, but it is poorly explained, to confuse the masses from making their own by claming "silica hydride". Actually it is more like an alkaline solution with a hydride compound dried in parts per million), totally untraceable and marketed as a Hunza water, under various names as Megahydrin, Microhydrin, etc. Technically speaking magnesium hydride, silica hydride can form in parts per billion in presence of a strong alkaline. Unfortunately many products out in the market causes the body to retain a "hydride" is very much limited because of insufficient amount of citrates was added. The MLM companies finally found that out much later and have added some citrates to it, and perhaps some bentonite compound to pull out the heavy metals from reacting directly with a negative hydrogen. Of course, this is a long story.

However, a simple way to do it, at least a poor man's way is to take 2 tablespoons of lemon juice plus 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda, then add the water with a hydride compound.

A hydride compound can be done quite easily or negative hydrogen rich water (as seen on ORP negative millivolts readings) adding a small pinch of sodium carbonate plus adding a small amount magnesium carbonate or even better, 1/8 teaspoon milk of magnesia (magnesium hydroxide) in a glass of water and bubbling using a CLEAN carbon rod, and bubble it, without the need to separate the electrodes. The compounds on hydrogen will form in an alkaline solution to form a hydride compounds and this can be mixed with the lemon and baking soda solution. Of course a much more easier way is just bubbling hydrogen gas in a milk of magnesia solution without the unnecessary complications for adding the sodium carbonate!

In summary, I would consider alkalizing my body first with a lemon and baking soda and take it as often as possible to raise to the uinary pH to 7. What is missing is the hydride or negative hydrogen components, which might be supplemented with just bubbling milk of magnesia in hydrogen, or just keep it simple and buy microhydrin (or megahydrin) from some MLM distributors. For me, what I actually did was buy any stable hydride compound added in an alkaline solution, and I am done -simply because Kangen water is too expensive and besides you can make a simple hydrogen water using a new shoe laces too!

Here is how to do a hydrogen water using the shoe lace: Get two glass of water and get two carbon rods. A nine volt battery connected to one carbon electrode on one end in one glass, and another carbon electrode is connected on another end in another glass. A new shoelace is used as a "salt bridge" between two glasses full of water. I will power up the water for a couple of minutes using a 9 volt battery. I might add some sea salt to help stabilize the hydrogen and cause the solution on one side to be alkaline and other side to be acidic. The key is the sodium chloride. I need not worry about unnecessary metals as I am using the carbon rod.

Whichever side is bubbling most of the gasses is seen as hydrogen gas, as hydrogen is two parts and oxygen is only one part. This way I need not remember whether it was the cathode or the anode, that was creating the hydrogen gas. In fact silver hydride might actually be possible in a colloidal silver solution if the silver was reacted in an alkaline solution just the same, and perhaps this was why certain silver colloids had such an amazing health benefits that others have not yet reported.

It is also possible to check which side is antioxidant just by measuring the ORP meter (negative readings is the negative hydrogen), or just even check using the pH. The alkaline side will be the antioxidant end. However, acid/base depends a lot on the presence of Sodium chloride (salt) to dissociate them into NaOH and HCl on the other oxidizing side.

2) Where can I purchase the body test equipment you mentioned?

Most school supply store will have a simple pH meter, ORP meter and litmus paper. I sometimes purchase these from either a chemical supplier house or a school supply store, science section when buying them. The internet will make it easier to search. I prefer a cheap electronic pocket pH meter and ORP meter, since litmus paper readings seems to lean more on the alkaline side for some reason or another, then it should be.

Replied by Bryan
Combermere, Ontario, Canada

Im trying to think where I might find carbon rods off the shelf? A welding supply shop has these but would they be pure carbon? Motor brushes can be carbon but again, is it pure? Can anyone think of a source for carbon electrodes as mentioned here for making hydrogen water?


Replied by Dragoncloud 888
Aberdeen, United Kingdom

Hi Bryan I was an avid R/C fanatic in the past and found that certain nylon kites and carbon rods for aeroplane structures are now easily available in model shops.If in doubt,you can get carbon fibre matting on line and fashion your own carbon electrodes out of this, at least you will know it is pure carbon fibre. This can be put inside a nylon tube with many holes in the tube to allow the water to come in to contact with your electrodes. I hope this is of help.

Kind regards

Replied by Linda
San Francisco, Ca, Usa

Bryan, You can get Carbon Rods on Ebay, just do a search on "carbon rod".