Scalp with Bad Smell for Past 6-7 Years
Hello Ted
I wandered if you could help. I'm trying to find a cure for this scalp odour i have had for about 6-7 years. My scalp has a horrid yeasty smell coming from it. I have tried everything, Nizoral shampoo, tea tree oil, virgin coconut oil, black soap, neem oil, sulfar soap. All these are anti-fungal and anti bacterial. I am using Jason Dandruff Shampoo at the moment. This has helped, however if i stop using this it comes back again! The Jason Dandruff contains neem oil, tea tree and sulfar. It isn't the best smelling thing in the world either.
I know there are lots of people with this condition and the Doctors dont seem to recognise this problem. My dermatologist thought i was paranoid and so i thought id deal with it through the internet.
Im hoping you have a cure for this and of any other people who have had the same condition and have been cured. It would be wonderful to know of people who have been cured!!!
Kindest Regards
Dear FM:
Fungus are relatively resistant to most products you mentioned except for one: ammonium compounds. The fomulation I used is to prepare a 5% solution of milk of magnesia, with 10-15% ammonium chloride (or ammonium bicarbonate) with 5% xylitol. This is applied on the head a couple of times for a couple of days. Is applied like a lotion, but no rinsing. Only rinsing the next day, then dry the hair. The milk of magnesia makes the solution alkaline, causing the ammonium compound to dissociate into free ammonium so they can do the killing and xylitol is only optional to kill the bacteria or prevent them from forming colonies. If this solutions stings, it's a confirmation that there's fungus present. After the second or third application the stings will no longer be there and most should die almost all after the third or application. A tougher case may require it be applied twice a day without immediate rinse and for at least two weeks. Actually shampoo companies hold a trump card by avoiding the use of ammonium chloride, but they use instead sodium chloride as a thickening agent which if they had done so, millions wouldn't suffer from fungus issue of the head or hair loss from fungus. Unfortunately, ammonium chloride is not used because it simply don't smell nice. I believe a lot of hair loss problem is the fungus and I am currently investigating whether tin deficiency is the other one. What I can say is molybdenum (sodium molybdate) if added in a hair rinse may helped fungus too, but ammonium chloride or ammonium bicarbonate are much easier to find and a lot cheaper. The reason I mentioned molybdenum, or even tin is that if a person is deficient in them, they may make the scalp susceptible to fungus also.
Since I am only one posting this, it helps if more people post feedback for this remedy.
Ted
Chicago, Illinois, Usa
07/18/2010
Hi Ted, I have the same issue- very yeasty scalp odor for the last 8-10 years and now some hairloss. I want to try your remedy, but I'm wondering if I should also throw out all of my brushes, combs, hairclips, scarves, etc. That I've been using? Is that necessary? Or can I sanitize them somehow? Thank you very much for your help!
Chicago, Il
08/23/2010
For the past 2 summers, I have been suffering with hair/scalp odor. It is driving me crazy. Whenever I go outside in the sun my hair gets an outdoors odor. The best way I can describe it is that odor children get when they've been outside playing all day, but this is only in the summer. Im sure it is a fungus that is causing this because I have a low wbc count, I just got rid of my toenail fungus and athletes foot. Can you Please tell me exactly where I can go to find Ammonium Chloride because I've been to a few stores to look for it and they looked at me really weird like they've never heard of it.
Pattaya, Thailand
06/30/2011
Use the ammonium bicarbonate substitute instead. It's sold as a pharmacy drug.... Log into MIMS. COM and look up the medical uses..... U can log in even if u r not a doctor. Look they products that stuck complicated to ammonium carbonate if possible... and only settle for it plus ammonia chloride and at least one formula has ammonia as the third option.
Other things can adulterate the receipe you are following. Ammoniun carbonate heat above 150 For so will brek into water, CO2 gas, and ammonium gas.... Stucking with just that will not risk you getting the ratios right with the ammonium chloride increasing the ammonia gas and dealing w/ the chlorine gas. And of coarse the chlorine itselfwill also vaporize..... the fact all 3 vaporize at different temps make stickingto one compound to mix with the milk magnesia much easier.
Fishers, Indiana Usa
02/13/2012
So. Florida, USA
07/10/2013
But ammonium bicarbonate and ammonium chloride are both leavening agents which feed yeast. See Wikipedia:
"In several countries, ammonium chloride, known as sal ammoniac, is used as food additive under the E number E510, commonly as a yeast nutrient in breadmaking. It is a feed supplement for cattle and an ingredient in nutritive media for yeasts and many microorganisms."
"Ammonium bicarbonate is used in the food industry as a raising agent for flat baked goods, ... In many cases it may be substituted with baking soda or baking powder or a combination of both, depending on the recipe composition and leavening requirements."
Cracow, Poland
10/12/2013
Could somebody possibly tell some more about Barbara's findings?
I want to try using ammonium chloride in my asthma treatment as Ted suggested some time ago, but I also have candida and am really concerned. I searched all over the internet and didn't find any information about ammonium chloride being antifungal.
What I found is something called didecyl dimethyl ammonium chloride (DDAC) and is said to be used in agriculture to treat fungus, but it is a different substance than ordinary ammonium chloride.
Please, can somebody clarify this? I know that Ted is having a hard time now, otherwise I would write directly to him.
Kacper
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