Swollen Lips, Tongue ,have Burning Sore Tongue and Lips

Posted by Cynthia (Nashville, TN) on 10/24/2006

I have swollen lips, tongue, have burning sore tongue and lips. Lips cracked at creases of mouth, lips peeling. I have been having this problem since 8/22/06. It is becoming unbearable, especially at night, feel like I have alot of acid in mouth. I have a problem with salivary stone in gland under tongue. Could this be causing problem or is it acid reflux? I have been to a Surgeon that wants to surgically remove stone and possibly gland. He states mouth problems not related to salivary stone, but sounds like an allergy. After reading your comments I feel like it is acid mouth, not allergy. Stopped eating fresh tomatoes and taking supplements. I have a problem taking pills feel like I have a narrow passage way in throat. Pills sometime get stuck and choke me.

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
383 posts

Cynthia: Long term acidity, too much calcium and too little magnesium often leads to high circulation of blood calcium as the body desperately seek to alkalize the body this way.

To reduce the high blood calcium you need to alkalize or give the body sufficient bicarbonates so that this will reduce. However once the stones are form it is quite difficult to remove by just normalizing it. Removal is one way, but to remove the glands along with it is in my opinion an extreme. If the stones are not large enough, normalizing it by taking bicarbonates will very slowly dissolve the stone.

It is however important to measure salivary pH and urinary pH to really determine if your body is too high in phosphates or too low in bicarbonates. If salivary pH is over 7.5, it means you have too high in phosphates. But it urinary pH is below 6, it means your bicarbonates is depleted. Long term depletion bicarbonates or excess phosphates will create stones.

If not enough bicarbonates, than taking a minimum of 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda plus 1/2 glass water before bedtime and 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda in the morning will help restore urinary pH. If this dose is too low, then you try to increase your dosage accordingly to reach that pH. If your salivary pH is also acidic, then it will be below pH 6.5, then phosphates is below normal. If salivary pH is over 7.5 then it is excess phosphates. Assuming you have acidic salivary pH, then taking only 1/8 teaspoon of disodium phosphate only once a day and 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda twice a day minimum should restore it to normal. Adjust your dose accordingly all of them are just minimum dose. You are very likely to use much more.

A much simpler way is just to take one whole freshly squeezed lemon, which will have potassium, vitamin C, citric acid, and some phosphate anyway. All you have to do is take it twice a day, but add water to 1/2 glass, and keep adding baking soda at 1/4 teaspoon intervals until the fizz reduces. The lemon should taste almost like water. The stones therefore will no longer get bigger and will very slowly get smaller, if it is tiny, but large stones will take very long time to do it.

Finally you need to consider taking magnesium supplements which is antagonistic to calcium. I remember reading some water heater where there is calcium deposits buildup and they use powerful magnets, preferably North magnets, to slowly dissolve it. So perhaps getting some very powerful magnets might help also. Taking some disodium EDTA supplements might also help dissolve stones. Of course those path often depends on your doctor's advice anyway. Generally, I am a bit pessimistic on really dissolving large stones in such a short period.

There is some medical device that uses ultrasound to breakup stones in the kidney, but I am not sure if that is applicable in your situation, you just have to ask your doctor for that.