Oxidation-reduction Potential (orp) and Alkalized Water

Posted by Lisa (Lafayette, La) on 09/04/2010

Ted, I have a challenge for you: I've not seen anything on Earthclinic re: ORP in relation to the water we drink. Websites abound that alude to the fact that the bottled water we all drink is actually washing everything good from our bodies and leaving the free radicals to damage and age us. If I were to add h202 or sodium bicarb to my popular bottled water, would that bring the orp into the negative range where it should be, and therefore create for me an optimal drinking water, or should I give up bottled water altogether for my general health. And if so, what are my options for acquiring the proper ORP or alkalized water? Help! I am at a loss here.

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
09/30/2010
392 posts

To answer your question, If I were to add h202 or sodium bicarb to my popular bottled water, would that bring the orp into the negative range where it should be. The answer is no, but adding baking soda and apple cider vinegar will. The ORP is -100 to -200 millivolts, is antioxidant. The simpler way, is an alkaline form of vitamin C, such as sodium ascorbate, but NOT ascorbic acid. R.O. water has no minerals, so adding 1/4 teaspoon per liter of water helps. ORP or alkalized water? It's really both. That's why the baking soda and vitamin C, or apple cider vinegar and baking soda. How much to add? I will try 2 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar plus 1/4 teaspoon to 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda. If sodium ascorbate, then just 1000 mg of sodium ascobate per one liter of drinking water. So no more free radicals in terms of ORP, but aging there is another cause.

Firstly, the cause of aging, based on mitochondrial enlargement, comes from the polyunsaturated and monunsaturated oils. They tend to cause a lot of cellular damage more so then the water itself. Fried foods and oily foods is the issue. I have seen a Thai who aged just as quickly as other Americans who has family members aged much slower who don't consume these canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, and other polyunsaturated oils. Hydrogenated oils and monounsaturated oils are the other ones. It seems the cells like medium chain triglyceride and the saturated oils, that I found exists mostly in coconut oil and to some extent lard. Yes 50 or 60 years ago we at the right kinds of oil and we age slower then. That's just part of the story. The mitochondria, the cell's energy center makes uses of that and help prevent them from deterioration. This can be easily proven in liver damage, technical name is liver steatosis. In autopsies for people who die from various reason it was found that only people who consume unsaturated fats don't harm the liver. Liver is like a supermarket. If it is closed for business all the organs starve, or if it is toxic, the organs become toxic.

As for getting a normal water, just add baking soda and vitamin C, or just baking soda and vinegar in some of those drinks. I have actually measured most commercial waters, including expensive ones. They all are oxidative, but especially for the water faucets, whenever they add chlorine and fluorine they are even worse. The ORP for ordinary tap water can vary, depending on the degree of fluoridation and chlorination. Most tap water, because of that, has an ORP of positive 300 to 500, while most bottled drinking water can be from 50 millivolts to 200 millivolts. I have as yet to find a mineral water bottle that has a negative value. However, there is one brand Thailand, made by the Japanese, where they pack them in aluminum plastic, called Negative Hydrogen water, which has a negative -150 to -250 upon opening the package, but must be quickly consumed within 5 minutes or the hydrogen goes away and quickly becomes neutral. What they did is simply bubbled the water or packed them in just hydrogen gas. It's a great way to make money, since you are just adding hydrogen gas and charging ten times the money for the water. However, we can easily do the same with just sodium ascorbate or just baking soda and apple cider vinegar.

Ted

Replied by Paul
London
10/29/2016

Hi Ted,

I think there is some error in one of your paragraphs, may be you did not notice and would like to correct. Here is it:

In autopsies for people who die from various reason it was found that only people who consume unsaturated fats don't harm the liver.

Should not it read saturated fats?

Paul


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