Halitosis Remedies Not Working

Posted by Kai (Manila, Philippines) on 05/24/2008

Dear Ted, hi there, i've been reading your your posts since last year. i am a halitosis sufferer. i tried hp rinse and baking soda as tooth paste. it worked for a couple of weeks but the smell returned again after that. i am quite acidic too. i tried taking baking soda + water and ACV + water taken internally. they indeed help reduced stomach acidity but not halitosis. and also i've noticed that baking soda could make me fat even without changing my diet and an additional exercise.does it normally do it? in the past few years, i used to be exposed to stress and lack of sleep. that's where i suppose that i got this halitosis. i have an excellent oral hygiene. by now i'm no longer exposed to so much stress and i could oftentimes sleep 8hrs a day. i just started taking zinc supplement because i've read in one of your post that it could help. it contains 100mg ascorbic acid too that's why it causes a little stomach acidity for a while but would disappear after an hour or so.but i think i am gaining weight with zinc too. does zinc actually cause weight gain? i also take vit. B complex to help with zinc. i am on a high fiber diet. i eat whole wheat bread mornings and evenings and i only eat rice on lunch. i eat 1 whole apple a day and whole wheat crackers for snacks. i'm still hopeful, ted. i'm willing to try anything just to get rid of this. and also, i have this post nasal drip(I think that's what it is called) or that mucous build up at the back of the troat. i've read on the net that i causes bb too. i'm chewing whole cloves to sweeten or somehow mask bb. do you think it could actually help? i also have body odor that i resolve with a deodorant stick. but later these days (since i've been chewing cloves) I've noticed that despite of working in an airconditioned room with very minimal physical activities, i could still have body odor sometimes. do you think it has something to do with cloves?.. please ted..help me with this. i want to resolve bb and bo but i dont want to gain weight too. i'm quite chubby now and i don't think i want to be fatter..thanks ted.. and more power to earth clinic

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
391 posts

There is a pH in the mouth that is the major cause of chronic halitosis, and there is a pH in the urine that is the cause of common metabolic acidosis. In some instances, people with chronic halitosis I found had either alkaline urine pH and acidic mouth pH. Or they had an acidic urine pH and an acid mouth pH. Therefore most of the halitosis is due to acidic mouth pH condition, where the cause were traced to low levels of potassium and magnesium. In this cases another remedy, is needed, which I don't like because they are harder to find in some people, but here it is:

1/2 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate, plus 1/4 teaspoon of potassium citrate taken usually three times a day in 1/2 to 1 glass of water.

A drinking water made of what I called ORMUS water, a very simple and crude one is as follows:

1/4 teaspoon of sea salt plus 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda plus 1/4 teaspoon of sodium carbonate (washing soda). I often called this by another name as salt carbicarb water remedy too. But because of the presence of monoatomic elements, which increases intercellular communication raising the immunity, it can also be called ORMUS drinking water too. The solution is kept overnight and used as a drinking water throughout the day.

The other often overlooked cases of halitosis, is to see a dentist. There may be cavities, and unhealed gums, or wisdom tooth issues that needs cleaning that a dentist can do the cleaning or plugging up of cavities with a preferred composite materials as opposed amalgam tooth fillings.

In more advanced cases, I may add more potassium citrate or potassium bicarbonate, but baking soda is always added, to maintain the critical sodium: potassium balance and check whether the mouth pH is 7 to 7.35. Quite often in halitosis, the problem is the pH of mouth is frequently below 7. And if that happens, it helps to take the baking soda and potassium citrate.

Potassium citrate or potassium bicarbonates causes the mouth pH to be alkaline, while the sodium bicarbonate can have some effects but not that much, using both can help the best as mentioned in the above to quickly alkalize the mouth pH within a matter of hours.

Finally there are certain acid forming foods and fungus rich foods that needs to be avoided. These include wheat products, peanuts, potatoes, white bread, white flour and dairy products, and all sweet foods, crackers, and replaced with rice, vegetables, fish, and chicken and ocassional lean meats.

Most weight gains comes from lack of potassium balance, low high protein foods, low amino acids and taking vitamin B complex. Vitamin B complex in general increases appetite, while zinc lowers appetite. Whey protein taken only in the morning and eating an early dinner before 4.00 p.m. wont further cause weight gain. The only instance of a clear decrease in weight is just eating salads and vegetarian foods all day. A high protein foods will increase weight, but not body fat, muscle mass is usually responsbile for most of the weight gain, not the fat. All sweet and sour foods should be reduced and 1000 mcg of chromium polynicotinate three times a day and white beans and 1 tablespoon of granulated lecithin for a month also decreases weight. However most of the decrease in weight from the lecithin comes from reduction in fatty buildup in the liver and blood vessels. Chromium lowers blood sugar which in turn leads to weight loss. For me, it is best to drink plenty of water before, during and after meals so that bulk foods is reduced and caloric consumption is decrease. It is important to eat 1/4 the speed of eating a specific food so that the brain can trigger it is full. The brain is about 30 minutes too late before the stomach knows it is full. Eating slowly will cause the brain to register it being full. So just eat 4 times longer would help reduce food. Eating certain foods can trigger satiation far quicker, such as eating fish, salmon, saba fish, and whey protein. These help trigger the brain that it full since the body uses certain amino acid to tell the brain it is full. If there is not sufficient amino acid/protein in the blood it think it is full. Obviously eating snacks, crackers and potato chips cannot trigger the brain that it is full, especially if the manufacturer manages to sneak in monosodium glutamate, disguised as another names such as hydrolyzed protein, yeast extract or some other synonyms used. Therefore to prevent MSG from damaging the brain and further cause a binge eating, a taurine supplements 500-1000 mg also help protects the brain against the MSG and help reduce some problems related to obesity. However in older people it is the DHEA 12-25 mg that is most helpful in weight loss.

Replied by Ryan
Waco, TX

Hi Ted, thanks for all your help. I am trying to correct my PH balance, but I am confused. Doesn't bacteria shy away from acidic environments? My saliva is alkaline, but my urine is very acidic. Help me understand what is going on. Thanks. -Ryan

Replied by Jed
Manila, Philippines

hello ther i am a halitosis sufferer too.. and just recently i tried the hp but everytime i lay on my bed ive felt the sour taste on my throat and bcoz of this i tried the other method the baking soda and salt.. and just recently the saliva on my mouth has diminished and my mouth bcame dry.. and evrytime i eat foods with sugar i feel the sour taste again pls help me with my problem...