ACV and Baking Soda

Posted by Leo (Georgetown, Malaysia) on 04/01/2007

First of all, I really found this site to be very helpful and informative. I have just started on the ACV and baking soda solution, though I am not too sure of the quality of the ACV, as the one I got does not have "the mother" in it. Will it work just as well or a little less? Also, while reading through some articles on cleansing, I came across one on Liver / Gall bladder cleansing or flushing. http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp I would like to know what earth clinic's view on this topic... cause I find that this site gives really good information and reasoning. Thanks again. Thank you!

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
383 posts

Dear Leo: The detailed description of the liver flush for Hulda Clark is a long one.

But briefly, the remedy for liver flush is:

1/2 Cup Olive Oil Extra Virgin (= 1.25 dl) 1 Big grapefruit (2 small) (Or 3 lemons) 4 tablespoon EPSOM salts = ( MgSO4 + 7H2O)

Basically the formula attempts to increase the secretion of the bile and to remove the stones that maybe in the liver/bile area. That is basically its purpose.

So let's look at each of the components:

Olive oil provides the lubricant needed for the stones to slip out.

The big grapefruit or lemon basically is a citric acid which causes the stones to be dissolve somewhat the calcium stones.

Epsom salts basically can cause diarrhea, and also increases the liquids in the intestines, thus also increasing the bile secretions, furthering the ridding of the stones.

The problem I see is in a liver flush there are different kinds of stones, basically the hard ones such as calcium stones for example are a bit easier to detect using x rays. The more difficult one, such as excess cholesterol or softer stones are the ones that is a bit more difficult to dissolve.

Basically the olive oil has a better chance of dissolving the cholesterol, but not that well, being an oil also, it is not water soluble, which is actually a larger component of the intestinal makeup.

The best component to dissolve cholesterol soft stones found in the liver is actually a fat emulsifier, the powdered granulated lecithin. Excess fats in the liver may even bring the liver into cirrhosis, in my opinion. That is the basic weaknesses of the Hulda Clark. While I can easily redesign Hulda Clarks liver protocol, time limits me from doing so.

To modify a better Hulda Clark's liver flush, what I can say is the stones needs to be dissolve first, or reduce in size before a lubricant of olive oil and a bile stimulation is done first. While the results are more dramatic if you do the olive oil and the epsom salt, it does not increase in removing more if the size is not decreased.

The ones that dissolve the stones can be done by just taking plenty of ascorbic acid vitamin C, citric acid, lemon juice, grapefruit is a bit weaker and less effective. While citric acid is a weaker form of acid that dissolves calcium stones, a stronger solution I think is the use of disodium EDTA, not the calcium EDTA. You can prove that to yourself when you use this as a bathroom cleaner to get of those difficult to remove calcium that forms on sinks and bathtubs. It removes them like a miracle. Of course this is not designed for kidney stones, but more like a liver flush and taking too much disodium EDTA alone can bring on the diarrhea without the epsom salt's help. Again disodium EDTA I think is not needed here unless the original protocol doesn't work.

Once the stones size is reduced after sometime, than both a lubricant, olive oil and the bile stimulator, such as epsom salts are bought in. To push the reduced size stones out.

Again, that liver flush is not even finished. Once the hard stones are removed, taking at least 1 tablespoon of granulated powdered lecithin for about 1-2 months, will further reduced the cholesterol stones that are needed to be removed still, by dissolving them. So you won't see them out nice and round, it just get liquefied or dissolved. I have seen one case where the person who took lecithin had the same waistline before and after the lecithin, but reported a weight loss of several pounds. The weight loss was from the reduction in the liver's excess fats, some which may be the cholesterol portion. Obviously, the bad cholesterol were reduced is normal when lecithin is taken. Granulated powdered lecithin is generally the safest since there is no oil portion or rancid oil you have to worry about. Most reported side effects comes from the oily liquid lecithin, but none from the granulated powdered lecithin.

A liver flush here is actually a misnomer. I avoided creating my own protocol of a liver flush because it requires a lot more than just ridding of the stones, and fats.

It must be remembered that throughout your entire life, the body have PROBLEMS riding oil soluble compounds and tend to accumulate in the body is they are not used.

Those oils I am referring to are chemical oils, found in so many cosmetic products, especially perfumes which causes acne and skin problems well into the 30s. The chemical oil toxins accumulate that the liver has no way to rid off.

The way I did it, one way was lecithin, but that alone was not all. I needed to take hydrogen peroxide with baking soda for example (it is synergistic). That dose, was between 3-12 drops, of 3% H2O2, with 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda in 1 glass of water, taken first thing in the morning.

Mine averages 6 drops, but most people seem to prefer between 3- 6 drops, 3 is the better for people who are sensitive to it. As mentioned before I liked it so much and my skin complexion cleared, more energy, that I took it for more than 2 years before stopping.

I stopped simply because there were no more improvements and now only use the H2O2 for example as a mouthwash would be sufficient anyway. The mouthwash concentration acceptable to most people appears to be 1% concentration. This does not mean I stopped the hydrogen peroxide completely. If I have a colds, or a virus coming, or even weaknesses, I will take it.

After the hydrogen peroxide, which can be done on alternate, the water add other detoxifiers, such as apple cider vinegar, 10% sodium thiosulfate drops, clove oil. Those helped the liver function in detoxification too. It won't perform technically a clear flush, but it does rid of the toxic substance accumulated in the body.

Replied by Lou
Tyler, Tx
06/21/2012

I used the liver flush (searching on Chris Gupta gallbladder cleanse). It was just like Ted described, only I drank 1 quart of apple juice a day for 6 days leading up to the cleanse. Or, if you can't drink that much apple juice, I suppose malic acid supplements would work. This softens the stones first. The Epsom salts expel the stones with the help of the olive oil and lemon juice. The grapefruit juice should be on hand to eliminate the bitter taste of the epsom salts. There are some dietary instructions to follow the cleanse which I believe consist of eating a baked potato, pineapple and oranges for breakfast with a big leafy green salad at lunch. Potassium supplements as well as acidophilus should be taken for 60 days (at least that's what another cleanse instructed.)


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