Coq10 Dosage?

Posted by Frank (Roselle, IL) on 11/10/2006

I haven't tried CO Q 10, pending feedback from you. Your comments mentioned a friend who cured about 90% of of his condition by taking the entire bottle of CO Q 10 over 2-3 days. What size bottle? What strength CO Q 10? It sure does sound interesting to me.

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
384 posts

Dear Frank: My friend took initially one CoQ10 and noticed nothing. So he took more and it helped a little. Then he took even more and it helped more. So I do not know how many times in all, he finally came to a conclusion that if he took the entire bottle, it stopped his condition 90%. The bottle size I think it was about 100 capsules.

Replied by Bharat
Faridabad, Haryana, India

Dear Ted, Can you please suggest what mg COQ 10 shall my father try an what are the if at all possible side effects of 500 mg. of N Acetyl Cysteine and COQ 10. Thanks in Advance!

Replied by Annette
Denver, Co. Usa

Dear Ted,

Gosh.... Where to start?? Technically speaking, this isn't a question or remark about COQ10 dosage, but I decided to post here because of the COPD issue being discussed. COPD...... What a nasty disease to develop and especcially so when you are destined to develop it..... My parents had it and now I do too. I'm a 59 year young female whose lung function is at 23%, I'm on 2L of oxygen 24/7, no energy and it sure does take a great deal of energy to do just about anything!! My medications are Albuterol inhaler and Nebulizer solution, Advair 500/50, Spiriva, 900mg Theophylline daily. I'm also supplementing my diet with B-12, odorless Garlic tabs (4000mg per day) 600mg Calcium w/Vit D> 1 twice a day and 400mg Magnesium w/Chelated Zinc> 1 per day. I'm also just starting to take NAC, Cool Cayenne and Turmeric (as a Curcuminoid). So, if I'm reading correctly, all I have left to add to this regimen is Vitamin E? Maybe DMSO?

And I know that somewhere along the line, I have to incorporate ACV with baking soda. And I do have H2O2 standing ready in case of flu or bronchitis.... But should probably be drinking this 3% food grade dilution as a part of my water intake each day. So, in your opinion:

1) Is this too much or not enough to try to recover some of my lung function?

2) What I'd like to ask about here, is the meaning of "healing crisis". Just a wild guess here, but I'm thinking that the episode I experienced between yesterday and today, was one of those. I had uncontrollable coughing and expulsion of quite a bit of white foamy phelm and my nose ran to the point where it was hard to keep up with!! In short, I felt pretty lousy, but starting to feel somewhat better tonight. 3) What are your recommendations for dosage and for how long the NAC, Cool Cayenne and Turmeric should be taken?

4) Is the Cayenne and Turmeric a poor substitute for COQ10?

5) And lastly, because I know others must have seen and looked at 2 links associated with EC in regard to Hysmeton and Histnatax..... Is there anything in these 2 "drugs" that is of value? Taking 1 tablet per day for 30-60 days to undo 30 years of smoking and the damage it does, just seems way too easy. Do you know anything about these?

My daughter helped me to research all of this and we found Earth Clinic¬ to be the most informative..... And I thank you so much for your time and valuable input on the subject!! I'll be checking in from time to time to let you know how I'm progressing and more importantly....... How I'm feeling!! Just sign me....... Looking forward to easier breathing days!!!

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
384 posts

As for CoQ10, they are generally expensive if we do take them at effective dose. Most supplement companies know that people have no idea on effective dose and try to sell them at a greatly reduced dose to keep the cost and prices down. However, the effective dose for CoQ10 is at least 1200 mg a day to have a therapeutic dose.

The second issue is calcium tends to cause problems in the lung through calcification. I will try to remove calcium from the supplements. The issue doesn't seem to be lack of calcium, it has to do with lack of calcium utilization from other deficiencies, such as low magnesium low boron, for example. Calcium tends to cause calcification of the eye lens leading to cataract, cysts in ovaries, stones in the kidneys, stones in the liver and cysts in the breasts. They get everywhere in the tissues except the bones. Bones perforate from pathogens eating the bones, nutrition deficiencies of collagen so without a collagen matric to hold the bone cells are some of the problems, and even if a child has rickets, it's never about the calcium deficiency, it's always vitamin D from lack of sun exposure. If you are familiar with Dr. Kervan, who studied biological transmutation, it seems magnesium and silica are more important. In sports medicine they sometimes use hydroxyapatite, which is actually a bone material, as a supplement to encourage healing of the bones. However, in COPD, I think calcium is one supplements that's not needed. They tend to calcify the lungs if taken long enough.

As for N Acetyl Cysteine, I prefer to take the pure N Acetyl Cysteine, and the effervescent kind they tend to add aspartame, which degrades to methanol and then to formaldehyde in the liver. They then become toxic as they are FREE aspartame and become excitotoxins and is obviously not as safe as eating tomatoes, as they are generally not free aspartame and pectin bound, preventing them from metabolising to harmful substances.

As far a some sort of regeneration from COPD, there are a few that may help. One is colloidal silver, one tablespoon two or three times a day, and aloe vera oil, about 1 teaspoon once a day. Some other supplements may help, such as beta sitosterol, at about 500 mg a day. In some people, we tend to accumulate chemical toxins, allergens and have a large effects on breathing passages from ever healing. Therefore I expect people to have two bowel movement a day and some coffee enemas to help them detox. Hydrogen peroxide 3% when used I used one capful of 3% hydrogen peroxide in one liter of drinking water, or technically not over 0.5% concentration. The hydrogen peroxide will detox most harmful chemicals by oxidation and it might be taken for 1 days on and 1 days off, hence taken on alternate days. This allows the body to detox dead stuff on off days, and neutralize the toxins whenever hydrogen peroxide is taken.

There is a way we might find something that we are allergic too or what is helping you heal by applying on the skin. If the skin heals faster, whatever the supplement it is, the lungs may heal.

One very important supplement for COPD, to reduce the "resistance" from breathing, is the hyaluronic acid. This is most important, as it acts as the body's motor oil. What it does it quickly goes to the lungs and reduce resistance associated with breathing greatly. The mixture I personally use, and for quite a few Lou Gehrigs and COPD is 500 mg of sodium hyaluronate with 9 grams of sea salt, in 500 cc of drinking water. It is drank at roughly 8 capfules three or four times a day. The improvement should be felt in breathing within 30 minutes or less. I had one lung cancer who reported improved breathing within minutes after drinking this solution. The sodium hyaluronate can usually be found in the internet. DO NOT MIX SODIUM HYALURONATE with vitamin C. they tend to degrade them quickly. Keep unused portions in refrigerator. If kept in refrigerator over a month, they should be disgarded or if they smell bad, then it should be thrown away, whatever comes first. Some COPD lungs don't heal not because of toxins in the lungs, but inability for the body to generate hyaluronic acid. Hyaluronic acid is a quick and simple solution to handle this problem, due human civilization's desire to heat food. When you heat foods, the two amino acid that is destroyed is usually lysine and tryptophan. The other maybe is histidine. The lysine is one of the amino acid involved in collagen production when it is converted to vitamin C, to become hydroxylysine, and the other two amino acid food source to help body increase hyaluronic acid besides that is proline and glycine. The amino acid glycine is a sweet tasting substances, but is it also protects the liver against liver damage. Hyaluronic acid offers a quick solution, and the other ones are longer term, and I haven't quite gotten around to testing vitamin C, lysine, proline and glycine as it relates to COPD, because COPD is nonexistent in Thailand.

As far as medicines is concerned, I don't used them at all. I somehow managed to getaway with using any pharma drugs as they don't seem to be useful. For example, to increase oxygen, I used sodium bicarbonate and potassium carbonate, 2: 1, this will drive out carbon dioxide, increasing oxygen and this can be felt within minutes of taking them. The dose I used, might be after meals 1/2 teaspoon three to four times a day. The fourth time I take it before I sleep if I believe I have an oxygen deficit. If breathing passages are too much closed, try to identify the source food allergens that caused it. Eating oils, sugar and hard to digest protein from cooked meats tend to congest the system leading to breathing difficulty so no sweet fruits, vegetable oils and cooked meats, at least for now. And get bowel movements regularly and take magnesium and twice a week vitamin E, usually 200 i.u. would do fine without severely causing high blood pressure. The alkaline baking soda/potassium carbonate will also prevent red blood cells from stacking on each other. They tend to occur from eating oily and fatty foods, but this also occur with excessive proteins and sugars, and they stick differently, causing low oxygen.

There is one tip that might be useful is to take some urea as a supplement (most people won't go for urine therapy), and take 1/8 teaspoon of urea three times a day with the added lemon juice a bit, but not too much. The urea in the water may help healing of the lungs. This goes true if the urea is also added to the humidifier. The dose is to prepare a 5% urea solution and use this as an atomizer or mist spray and breathe in for a couple of minutes. Along with taking aloe vera, and colloidal silver, beta sitosterol, this might encourage the body to regenerate damage lungs. Provided of course hyaluronic acid is taken to reduce some irritation along the lung lining and take vitamin C and perhaps at least lysine and glycine to also encourage healing.