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Anxiety Short Circuiting My Teenage Son's Potential

Posted by Anonymous (Anonymous) on 12/05/2011

Dear Ted,

My son Ben is 17 years old and was diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder 15 months ago by a private school psychologist. Ben was depressed and anxious during high school and his grades were trending down since his freshman year. He started seeing a therapist in his sophomore year who said she felt Ben was very intelligent and she suggested we have him tested (IQ and executive functioning skills). We hired a private school psychologist to test Ben and he said Ben is gifted with an IQ of around 135. He believes his IQ could be higher if it were not for his anxiety. He later recommended we have Ben see a psychiatrist for anti-anxiety medication when Ben's performance at school continued to decline. I am against this kind of medication so I took Ben to see a cranial sacral therapist (fortunately my husband agreed). Ben saw the cranial sacral therapist about 4-5 times last May after which she said she did not feel any anxiety in Ben and she said she didn't sense any in him in the first place. Ben said he didn't feel anxious and he seemed better and happier but school was also ending in a couple weeks. This fall Ben seems happier and a normal teen and his grades are a little better, but he continues to struggle at school. He said he can't focus and he is often tired. He started seeing an educational consultant/psychotherapist a couple weeks ago (to give advice/assistance on colleges, although Ben may not be ready to manage college next fall) who believes Ben's anxiety is not due to his giftedness, but it is organic in origin. She believes he should be on medication. I am really against this because I don't believe in treating the symptom and even if Ben say a therapist (he stopped seeing his other therapist last May) while he was on medication, I don't think they are safe.

I put Ben on GABA for two days (500 mg) but it didn't seem to make any difference. Maybe he should be on it longer. I tried L-Theanine (100 mg) and he's been on it for three days but I have not noticed any real difference. I was thinking of trying Taurine as I have read many posts on earthclinic.com saying it helps with anxiety.

Ben's diet also isn't that great. I am a vegetarian and eat well (cook in coconut oil, organic, nuts, etc.). My husband, however, doesn't eat as well and he'll buy potato chips, cook bacon (not that often), white bread, cheese, etc. so Ben will eat these things. I give Ben a multi-vitamin, probiotic, omega 3, zinc, turmeric, C, B complex vitamins/supplements but I know this isn't a substitute for good food. Ben is also very allergic to peanuts.

Sorry for the long e-mail but I am concerned about Ben's anxiety. He said he isn't anxious anymore, he just needs space. But his inability to consistently do his homework and study reflects he still is anxious. While part of it may be due to immaturity, Ben says he cares about his grades and he wants to do well, but he isn't able to translate that desire into action. He scored a 32 on the ACT test and he wasn't even feeling well that day.

We have a good acupuncturist and Ben has been successfully treated for hives and rashes (lotions and herb capsules) but he won't see her for acupuncture.

Thank you in advance for any advice or suggestions. I am very grateful for your contributions to earthclinic.com. It's been a wonderful resource for me.

Replied by Anonymous
12/16/2011

Hi Ted, My son is not bi-polar. He has anxiety. So you still recommend for his anxiety: 500 mg Niacinamide (B3) on an empty stomach before bed, 500 mg L-Lysine and 500 mg or 1/4 teaspoon of L-Threonine hourly for four hours each day for three days and then replace with maintenance dose of L-Lysine 1000 mg and L-Threonine 500 mg or 1/4 teaspoon 2x a day, and if sugar cravings develop, take glutamine and glycine to stop them? Thanks again for your patience and assistance Ted. Once you confirm, I will go and buy these things and have my son try them."


12/16/2011: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "12/16

The minimum dose is 500 mg lysine, medium dose 1000 mg and maximum dose is 1500 lysine taken hourly for 4 hours. I have problems with clients who have budget problems.

It is helpful with 22 amino supplements for sure, there are inhibitory amino acids and there are excitotoxins. But the most pressing is any essential amino acid, but my essentials are even less, which includes lysine and threonine as major elements.

Bipolar is an uneven metabolism of the brain. Some parts are functioning ok, some are not, while depression is when general metabolism is lowered. My thinking is iodine distribution is uneven and to make it more even I use low doses as part of the treatment but is taken below what medical uses such as 1 to 2.5 mg."


12/16/2011: Anonymous replies: "Hi Ted, The clinical psychologist who my son started seeing recently told me she thinks he may have "agitated depression." She is going to start some testing next Monday. I read about agitated depression on Wikipedia and it appears to be related to bipolar. So now I am very anxious to start the regimen you suggested: niacinamide 500 mg (before bedtime on an empty stomach), 1000 mg Lysine and Threonine 1/4 teaspoon taken hourly for four doses per day for 3 - 4 days and then maintenance dose of 1000 mg Lysine and 500 mg Threonine 2x per day because this is effective to treat anxiety or bipolar, correct?

You said bipolar is caused by a virus. Is there any way to test if my son has this virus?

You also recommended zinc acetate since it is anti-viral. What is the dose? I cannot find zinc acetate. I can only find zinc gluconate, zinc aspartate, and zinc monomethionine aspartate (ZMA). I bought some L-Lysine and L-Threonine. They have L-Lysine and L-Threonine in pharmaceutical grade form with no additives.

Thank you again for your invaluable help. The clinical psychologist thinks my son should be on medication and she recommended a psychiatrist. I am sure once he is evaluated, the psychiatrist will prescribe medication. I am eager to start my son on the niacinamide, lysine and threonine as soon as I receive these products in the mail.

Gratefully Yours."


12/16/2011: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "The zinc can be zinc acetate, zinc gluconate, but that's it. The other makes the condition worse. Aspartate is an excitotoxin, methionine also.

Ted"


12/16/2011: Anonymous replies: "Thanks again Ted for your ever faithful response. I am going to start my son on 1000 mg of lysine because I don't think it is dangerous to use that much even if he really needs 500 mg, correct? I will decrease to maintenance level of 500 mg lysine after 4 days. Should I stop all other supplements while he is on the niacinamide, lysine and threonine for the four days? He currently takes flax seed oil geltabs, vitamin C, a multivitamin, a probiotic, turmeric and an herb capsule for skin.

"It is helpful with 22 amino supplements for sure, there are inhibitory amino acids and there are excitotoxins." Do you mean some of the 22 amino acids are inhibitory and the inhibitory amino acids are excitotoxins so they are bad?

If sugar cravings develop, how much glutamine and glycine should he take?

Regarding iodine, should I give my son liquid iodine? You suggested 1 to 2.5 mg?

Tonight I gave my son a 500 mg niacinamide capsule on an empty stomach before he took a shower and went to bed. I hope he sleeps well. Tomorrow morning I will start him on the 500 mg lysine and 500 mg threonine for four consecutive hourly doses; for four days. After that, I will maintain with 500 mg x 2 lysine and 500 mg x 2 threonine and continue the 500 mg niacinamide at night. Since school is over for winter break, my son's anxiety will probably lessen, so it may not be easy to tell if he is improving because there is no school or if the regimen is working. I guess I will know when school resumes in two weeks and if he is better, then I know the products are working as they should. I will keep you posted. Thank you again SO much Ted.

Many thanks again for your invaluable assistance!!"


12/17/2011: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "I don't think it is dangerous to use that much even if he really needs 500 mg, correct? I will decrease to maintenance level of 500 mg lysine after 4 days.

Yes for your son ideally 500 mg would be fine.

Should I stop all other supplements while he is on the niacinamide, lysine and threonine for the four days?

No, they are fine.

He currently takes flax seed oil geltab, vitamin C, a multivitamin, probiotic, turmeric and an herb capsule for skin.

It would be ok.

"It is helpful with 22 amino supplements for sure, there are inhibitory amino acids and there are excitotoxins." Do you mean some of the 22 amino acids are inhibitory and the inhibitory amino acids are excitotoxins so they are bad?

22 amino acids have both inhibitory and excitatory amino acids. But in sensitive individuals some excitatory amino acid would be too much for some people.

If sugar cravings develop, how much glutamine and glycine should he take?

Yes, even if he is low on energy. Ideally 250 mg x 2 of glycine first, then if he needs some more then glutamine 250 mg x 2. They may initially produced some side effects such as emotional outbursts, but I think glycine and threonine should suppress that.

Regarding iodine, should I give my son liquid iodine? You suggested 1 to 2.5 mg?

Not now. Unless he has sleeplessness. Then you need 2.5 mg of lithium carbonate and iodine lugols's solution at 1 drops.

Ted"


12/17/2011: Anonymous replies: "My son complained of being chronically tired this past week, more so than usual. He was also stressed more than usual too so I think they are directly related. I suspect he is having a depression episode. So I will try giving him the 250mg glycine twice daily first, however, I will wait until the first 3-4 days of using the niacinamide, lysine and threonine first to see how these three elements work before introducing the glycine. I will also need to find the 250 mg glycine dose since 500 mg dose is what I have.

He does complain of not being able to sleep. He has been taking coffea cruda and other homeopathic products to help reduce anxiety to help him sleep. But even when he had a good night sleep, he says he's still tired during the day. I am sure it is because he is so anxious and his mind is always running. The private school psychologist who tested his IQ, executive functioning, etc. said he tests in the gifted range with an IQ of 135+ and his brain ruminates about things all the time. My son says he thinks about several things simultaneously so it is difficult for him to focus and concentrate. I think this adds to his anxiety/stress which contributes to his fatigue. He said sometimes it takes him awhile to fall asleep, which may be party due to his overactive mind. After he falls asleep, he said lately he tosses and turns at night.

Blessings always to you and your family.

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
12/05/2011
391 posts

My favorite anti-anxiety, and I have great success with it, is B3 500 mg taken at night and 1 or 2 softgels of amino acid supplements. And possibly magnesium chloride saturated solution taken before meals, 7 drops twice a day. There are other causes (virus in nervous system), so the condition of improvement will be felt within 3 to 4 hours is hourly doses of lysine (it helps if threonine is taken along but some people here can't afford that). You can take more if you want, but that is the minimum. Some people (including me) are chlorine sensitive, so sodium thiosulfate will help, one rice crystal does it, taken internally. That neutralizes the chlorine, and other heavy metals too.

Remember, these are the bare minimum, and that when clients come to see me, there are other symptoms he may need, and many are unexpected. Life is full of surprises!

Ted

Replied by Anonymous
12/05/2011

Dear Ted, Thank you so much for your response! I was hoping to hear from you but I did not expect to hear from you so soon. I am very grateful for your time and advice! I wish we lived closer to you so I could bring my son to see you. But since we live in the U.S., it is not feasible. Regarding my son, I will try what you recommend but I have some questions for clarification to make sure I follow your advice correctly.

1) B3 500 mg taken at night - Should Ben take it right before bed? Should it be on an empty stomach? What kind of B3 500 mg you recommend?

2) 1 or 2 softgel of amino acid supplements - There are so many amino acid supplements available. Do you recommend any particular kind of amino acid? Do they have to be softgel or can they be capsules?

3) And possibly magnesium chloride saturated solution taken before meals 7 drops twice a day - I forgot to mention that Ben also takes a magnesium supplement (400 mg - magnesium asporotate, magnesium aspartate, citrate, orotate, magnesium oxide). I will have him stop taking it and give him the magnesium solution. How long before a meal should Ben have the drops?

4) There are other causes (virus in nervous system), so the condition of improvement will be felt within 3 to 4 hours is hourly doses of lysine (it helps if threonine is taken along but some people here can't afford that). You can take more if you want, but that is the minimum. Are you saying that Ben's anxiety could be caused by a virus and if it is, he should take hourly doses of Lysine and if he feels improvement within 3 to 4 hours, that means his anxiety is caused by a virus? If he does feel improvement (less anxiety), how long should he continue taking lysine and how much should he take? 500 mg per dose? Ben says he does not feel anxious most of the time, but the private school psychologist who tested him (IQ, etc.) said Ben still does have anxiety and I think Ben does too and that is why he is often tired and not capable of focusing. Ben says he cannot read because he cannot concentrate.

5) Some people (including me) are chlorine sensitive, so sodium thiosulfate will help, one rice crystals does it, taken internally, neutralize them, and other heavy metals too. Can a sensitivity to chlorine can create anxiety? Do you dilute one rice crystal in warm water and drink it?

Thank you again Ted for all your amazing advice! God Bless you for all your generosity of sharing your wisdom to help people all over the world. Thank you for addressing my questions above and I look forward to hearing from you. Blessings"


12/09/2011: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Answers to your questions:

1) The B3, niacinamide ONLY, is taken between 250 to 500 mg. The therapeutic dosage is around 500 mg. The brand could be any if they just don't add the additives (it would be nice). It's taken on an empty stomach.

2) Actually the ones that contain all 22 amino acids would be best, but I haven't tried the 9 essential amino acids.

3) Other forms of magnesium, the worst is Magnesium aspartate, which is an excitotoxin. The magnesium chloride and magnesium citrates are preferable because it is not an excitotoxin. The other kinds I haven't tested. Magnesium oxide forms are not bioavailable and to some extent magnesium carbonate. The condition would worsen if magnesium aspartate is used. The pH of urine decides which kinds of magnesium is best for chloride or citrate. If chlorides, it responds best if urine pH is very alkaline and citrate responds best if acidic urine. Both neutralize the urine parameters and make the body more livable!

4) The doses for a child depends on his weight. But for a dose of small adult, it is generally 1000 mg lysine and 500 mg threonine. Take if hourly for 4 hours, for at least 3 days. For maintenance dose it is around 1000 mg x 2 lysine, and 500 mg x2 at least. If the virus test is positive the zinc acetate may be favorable too as it is antiviral.

5) Chlorine competes for iodine in the thyroid. Iodine deficiency can create anxiety and low energy from hypothyroid. Fish die in chlorinated water, and none of my 100 repeat studies of chlorinated water ever sprouted bean sprouts in 6 or 7 days compared to a mineral water. You can dilute the sodium thiosulfate rice crystals in 1 cup to 2 liter of water. If the purposes are to dechlorinate then 2 liter, if purposes are to control anxiety, one cup of water would be fine.

Ted

Replied by Anonymous
12/13/2011

Hi Ted, Thanks SO much for your e-mail. It is difficult to find niacinamide, or any supplement, without the usual additives (magnesium stearate, gelatin, silica, etc.). My acupuncturist told me it's good to try and take a week off from your supplements from time to time to give your liver a break from all the additives like magnesium stearate. I ordered 500 mg niacinamide but it does have the usual additives unfortunately.

I am trying to find a supplement that contains all 22 amino acids but so far I have only been able to find one with 20 amino acids. But I suppose that is better than having only the 9 essential amino acids. I always thought phenylalanine was not safe because Aspartame contains it but I guess phenylalanine is safe while Aspartame is not safe.

And it is only one sodium thiosulfate rice crystal per one cup or two liter dose depending on the purpose? Many many thanks again!"


12/13/2011: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "The niacinamide won't be too harmful for the additives, but will limit the absorption. But I would pay attention to calcium being added, it actually makes the condition worse if taken too much. The off period helps.

The 22 amino acids will help correct nutritional imbalances in later stages, but for now I would concentrated on the lysine, threonine, and B3 niacinamide. Other priorities include zinc acetate, and N acetyl cysteine which is also antiviral. But zinc is taken briefly not exceeding one month. Therefore all 22 amino acids are not critical for now.

And yes, if you want a quick cure one crystal of sodium thiosulfate per cup will do. But one crystal per day would be fine in later stages.

Actually the things that help most are B3 niacinamide 500 mg, and the major amino acid that helps is the lysine 1/4 teaspoon or 500 mg and threonine 1/4 teaspoon taken hourly doses for four doses. The phenylalanine is an excitotoxin and may not be helpful. The cause for most bipolar disorders is a virus, such as HSV, herpes simplex virus, and that's why the lysine works. The threonine works by making the intestinal villi increase the surface area of detox and get the required nutrients in along with helping boost the immune system but also it kills viruses that are hidden in the cerebral and spinal area. As far as general amino acids are concerned the results vary greatly in their outcome. As far as B3 is concerned it inactivates certain fungi and some viruses, but also has a calming effects within 1 hour or less of taking the supplements. It takes at least 3 to 4 days of the supplement to see results that are somewhat lasting effects. Long term some zinc is needed as it is antiviral and to prevent them from coming back or get rid of them, perhaps BHT 500 mg is needed, but for most people they are happy with lysine, threonine, and B3, except for sugar cravings if taken over a longer time period at which glutamine and glycine would stop the cravings. Sugar fuels bipolar disorders in giving the nutrients for the virus to grow, especially the fruit sugars, fructose and high fructose corn syrup. You may try others, but the supplements listed here are best for me in treating bipolar disorder.

Ted

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
12/17/2011
391 posts

If you want to try one thing at a time, lysine and threonine combo, or niacinamide will be most beneficial for him at the moment. The niacinamide reduces anxiety and helps him sleep, as well as lithium 2.5 mg. The lysine and threonine combo does give him energy from the threonine, and that combined with its antiviral properties gives some boost in energy from less viral infection. The glycine merely prevents hypoglycemia that occurs in some diabetics from sugar, so it often occurs at that time but it is also an inhibitory amino acid, which is helpful for anxiety attacks.

But even when he had a good night sleep, he says he's still tired during the day.

Well if that's the case it appears to be a virus that's eating up his energy. That happens all the time, even if you have the colds for flu. Many strains of virus exist and some of them reside in the neural system, being fat soluble viruses. And those cause a lot of damage, but it remains mostly dormant and gets activated with sugar.

Ted"


12/17/2011: Anonymous replies: "My son said he slept pretty good last night, better than usual. I believe the niacinamide was the reason. I have given him two hourly doses of 500 mg each, lysine (capsule) and threonine (1/4 teaspoon powder). I have two more hourly doses left. Then niacinamide again tonight before bedtime.

I will cut down on his sugar as much as I can. I never buy soda drinks or anything with high fructose corn syrup. When I bake, I use organic coconut sugar which has lower glycemic than refined sugar. I remember you said fruit sugar is bad. Does that include raw fruit like apples and oranges?

I really hope this works because I have a close friend who has three children (ages 16-20 years old) who are all gifted intelligence and they all have anxiety issues. The youngest son has "agitated depression," the middle son has mood swings and gets depressed (possibly bipolar tendency) and the oldest daughter is very anxious and all three are on medication. The daughter is on Lexapro. So if your regimen works for my son and cures him (with ongoing maintenance) and I can avoid putting him on medication and he will be free from excessive worry, anxiety and depression, my friend is going to try your regimen. Another friend's son is 21 years old and is bipolar and he has mostly mania episodes where he is very high, not often depressed. I think he might be on medication. I hope she will be open to trying your treatment if I am able to tell her it worked for my son. So your helping my son will truly help many others. I tell everyone I know about Earthclinic.com. Countless thanks Ted.

Replied by Frankan
Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada
07/02/2012

Hi Anonymous, How is your son's anxiety condition after you have started on Ted's recommended treatment for anxiety/bipolar for your son. I believe you were using B3 500mg/Lysine 500mg/Threonine 500mg (4 times once per hour). In your last post on Dec/17/2011, you were just starting the supplements for your son. I really appreciate if you can have a followup posting to update your son's current condition after the supplements, since I would like to use this treatment myself.

Replied by Bart
Mississippi
08/13/2021

Ben needs to see a vision therapist as it could be due to his sight lines and his eyes might not be tracking properly. THis is different than the 20/20 correction most people think.

Replied by Ac
Pa
04/08/2023

Your son may have a tick borne illness.


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