Mange Vs. Yeast Infection

Posted by Keri (Bradenton, FL) on 10/08/2006

Does anyone know the difference between a yeast infection and mange? I have been detoxing my 11 yr. old golden for nearly 3 weeks, and now am concerned that it may be mange.. Any feedback would help, as I am not completely sold on the orthodox vet care he has been receiving.. antibiotics for everything etc.. Thanks Keri

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
384 posts

Keri: Yeast infection causes the dog to have improper digestion of food, constipation, and other internal problem. Externally yeast and mange look alike, but mange causes skin problems much more severe then a yeast infection, extreme hair loss being the obvious clues. Yeasts are mostly internally, but externally as well. Both yeast and mange causes foul smell.

The best way I can tell a yeast from a mange, is simple. I will treat the dog with a mange first using the 1% hydrogen peroxide with saturated solution of borax first, doing frequently enough. If it doesn't go away then you are facing the issue of the yeast infection. Yeast infection takes advantage of the dog's oily skin as a way to spread it. So if your dog has oily skin, it is likely to be a yeast infection.

Treating a yeast infection if the dog has it on the skin, required some changes in formulation. That means 1% copper chloride + 1% zinc chloride + some vinegar say 20%. Zinc is used to stop the zinc deficiency in dogs, which causes the oily skin, as well as certain yeasts are deadly to them to.

As you can see yeast are somewhat more difficult. Vinegar is used to disrupt the yeast membrane. I am using vinegar in place of hydrogen peroxide as a penetrant, since hydrogen peroxide will react with copper chloride to form copper oxide, thus completely neutralizing the hydrogen peroxide from acting as a penetrant. Therefore, vinegar is the preferred choice if it is indeed a yeast.

It must be noted that if it is yeast, however, you must rinse after the application after a about 10 minutes on the dog. It might be somewhat of an irritant depending on the severity, but the itchiness that the dog experiences should go away in no more than 10 minutes after the application sets in. But if it is mange, you cannot rinse the dog at all. The copper is often quite toxic to certain yeast and fungus. Since fungus have a weakness of copper and zinc, this is added, whenever I needed to get rid of it real quick. Again I am assuming this is external conditions of yeast. Internal yeast infection are a bit more tricky for the dog however.

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
384 posts

Keri: Additional information. If you think I am getting off easy with no mention of how to cure a dog with a yeast infection (internally) as opposed to externally. The method that seem to work potentially the best is the use of common food preservatives, which are much safer than the use of antibiotics. Also, amazingly enough food preservatives are more effective against yeast and fungus then antibiotics since antibiotics are often effective against only bacteria.

People need to understand that some food preservative are actually naturally found as in cranberry. Cranberry do have benzoates, which is exactly how it was discovered to be used as a food preservatives.

So a mixture of potassium sorbate 250 mg, sodium benzoate 250 mg. is added to a medium large dog to help reduce the yeast infection. Sodium metabisulfites is a possibility (50 mg) but you need not add that.

My rough estimate is given twice a day along with food. Vitamin B complex should be given at separate times to prevent sulfites (if the yeast are stubborn and sulfites are needed) from eating away at the dog's vitamin B1 reserves.

Other possibility is the use of polysorbate 90, and benzoic acid, but those mentioned should help. Side effects from food preservatives are often less severe. There is some potential, especially candida, yeast infection for dogs in the use of food preservative in place of antibiotics.

Replied by Willy
Venice, Ca
08/19/2011

Could you please stick with remedies that use ingredients people can actually buy? copper chloride? to find these things and have them shipped would take precious days if not weeks for people to receive. all while our pets are suffering. Sorry but suggesting hard to get chemicals is not helpful at all.

And are you suggesting feeding cranberries for systemic yeast infection? I don't always understand your wording of these remedies. thanks.

Replied by Alicia
Vancouver, Canada
08/19/2011

To Willy from Venice: Great point and thank you for making it. I agree 100%. I LOVE this site and have gotten so much useful information but I also tend to find that alot of remedies are unrealistic in terms of costs / availablility.