Ted's Remedies Needed For Post-Antidepressant Sexual Dysfunction
Dear Ted
I have read many of your contributions on earthclinic and have been impressed by the breadth of your knowledge. Myself and many others have experienced unremitting sexual dysfunction following use of ssri antidepressants such as prozac which persisted indefinitely even after discontinuing the drugs. In particular many of us have found the sexual dysfunction is characterized by genital anaesthesia, a greatly increased refractory period (I am a 26 year old man and whereas in the past I would be able to resume lovemaking after less than an hour of rest now that time has stretched to up to a day), loss of morning erections, delayed ejaculation as well as non-existent libido.
In my particular case I got a test shortly after developing these problems while on lexapro (a ssri). The tests showed my prolactin levels had shot up. However even after the prolactin levels returned to normal after quitting the ssri, the sexual symptoms were unabated.
I have tried herbal aphrodisacs such as maca, rhodiola and if anything these make it worse.
Many of us are suffering greatly and running out of potential cures to try so I would be very grateful if you could supply us with a natural cure we could try to improve our condition.
Yours respectfully.
Dear Matthew:
Prozac is a fluoride compound and lexapro is an oxalic acid compound these two compounds inhibit neural responses, such as sex and other things. It accumulates in the pineal gland which can effect sleep or the pituitary gland or the thalamus, which effects among other things sexual libido. You can remove this with a couple of substances, tamarind extract (the seeds are the most potent, but any part of tamarind will do, especially the leaf). Tamarind is a fluoride remover. Another compound that can remove calcium oxalate is citric acid and the B6 (although not too much of b6, as it causes weight gain). Malic acid are supportive and is found in apples and apple cider vinegar. It will take sometime to removes this, like a month to three months. Other things not helpful is the vegetable oils, especially fried foods. So stay away from it. Chelation agents are helpful in removal of calcium especially tetrasodium edta, or at least disodium edta, say 50-100 mg would be a good dose twice a day. If it is too strong, as to cause diarrhea lower the dose by one half.
Boron and glycine, but some citrulline and lysine is the formula I used to give normal sexual responses. It works both for men and women apparently. I added lysine to protect against overpowering citrulline and too much can cause viral growth, that's why I avoided the use of any arginine. Boron is taken at 1/8 teaspoon a day and glycine is 1/2 twice to three times a day. Citrulline maybe 100-200 mg a day with the lysine at 500 mg - 1000 mg a day.
I think I mentioned this in many postings, but apparently they weren't put together in the same place on Earth Clinic. The other one if you are still having problems is zinc, but 25 mg for once a week would be enough. Be warned that most supplements contain calcium and this effects absorption and you may in fact take nothing because calcium completely blocks absorption, in various forms in the additives, such as calcium triphosphate and magnesium stearate. Some contain calcium carbonate, which makes for condition to go form bad to worse. Stay away of calcium, fluoride, sugars and oxalate rich food. Or medications which are the same, containing fluoride, such as toothpaste.
Ted
06/02/2011
Hi Ted,
Thank you for the most informative response. Lexapro was the drug that caused the sexual problems for me. Could you suggest a dose for the tamarind, B6 and citric acid and the malic acid?
A few years after that I tried high dose amitryptyline (Elavil). This did not make the sexual dysfunction worse. However after discontinuing it I began to have very bad delayed onset insomnia falling asleep around 2am or 3am every night. I also developed brain fog and loss of cognitive function and motivation. Is there any mechanism that can explain this that I can correct?
I am greatly appreciative of your knowledge. Taking these antidepressants over the years has done me a lot of harm and I am desperate to recover my health.
Kind regards
Dose for the tamarind, B6 and citric acid and the malic acid?
That depends on the type of tamarind. Assume tamarind leaf extract I give myself say 1/8 teaspoon twice a day would be enough. The citric acid and malic acid there is no dose limit but we can say safely it can be taken 3 to 4 times a day at least 500 mg to 1000 mg gram. If it is too much acid I can reduce its acidity with baking soda to neutralize the acidity to pH of 7.0.
Brain fog might be helped with L carnosine, methylene blue 0.1% taken during the morning hours only, avoid taking coffee or caffeine, piracetam 800 mg and hydergine 1-2 mg taken 5 days out of a week. I am not kidding about this. If you are taking it everyday the by products or toxins build up and you get a side effect on day 8 or day 9. Some people actually believe in taking it everyday. The problem is the kidney clearance is limited and each medicine required different clearance so how do you know the clearance if you just take it everyday. It doesn't work and I know some people tried this and is not recommended, especially autistic, ADHD, and other people with limited kidney clearance, some are zero kidney clearance (mostly oil soluble) and accumulate in the liver. For that you need milk thistle and babbler's bill leaf to detox the liver. Oxalate compounds are hard to clear to you take B6 50 to 100 mg, but this may increase appetite and weight gain, so be careful about this.
I think anti depressants is best help (and I have great successes doing that) with just B3 alone, or with St. John's Wort, alkalization, taurine, GABA, and other inhibitory amino acids. For women, they are especially prone to thyroid deficiency even with normal thyroid functions because diets block normal thyroid functions (broccoli, cassava, etc.) therefore has to be taken natural thyroid, including men to some extent. That alone helped anti depressant better then any medicine. In some cases, iodine Lugol's half strength given at night 1 drops usually help for some people.
Ted
San Francisco, Ca
06/18/2011