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Posted by Patrick (Toronto) on 10/02/2006

My horse has ecoli does Ted know anything about treating animals suchas horses with this? We give him antibiotics but it comes and goes. Thanks

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
384 posts

Dear Patrick: In veterinarian medicine cost effectiveness consideration is the most important variable in the treatment for e.coli against horses.

Often preventive medicine is the number one criteria, the second one is the use of medicine or non-medicine which are also cost effective.

As a result animal nutrition is extremely important in the prevention. Most nutrition for horses and other animal are quite easy to find, but the main consideration you will be looking for is, zinc, selenium, and manganese. Silicon, which comes from hay allow the horses to be come resistant. Frequently if horses are in stalls often, this is where e. coli is found. If they were allowed to graze outside this would be a better way.

Mixing feeds with some bentonite powder will frequently reduce the e. coli or you can make clay ball and allow the horse to lick them. Some animals by instinct know when they are sick and will drink from water rich with bentonite clays. So you can add maybe a cup or two in a large tank of water using bentonite clay dissolved. The bentonite will cause the number and reduction of e.coli reducing the need for antibiotics in a number of cases. American indians have used healing clays (bentonite clays) for ages by mixing them in their drinking water as a cure for diarrhea.

Another way to prevent E. coli and killing them most cost effectively is the use of ozone and hydrogen peroxide therapy. Disinfection using peroxyacetic acid sprays on their food can be done, or spraying with a 3% hydrogen peroxide, is a relatively mild way to disinfect the food and stalls.

Proper ventrilation of stalls, sun exposure, cleanliness, the use of UV lights in stalls should reduce most of the problems. The use of ozone for breathing, or for treatment in various parts of the animals will also kill the e.coli as well. While there is a specific amounts of ozone to use, most commercial ozonators do produce enough amount of ozone to do the killing.

If you want some specific information for more details, please refer to the public source below. Ted

source: http://www.falconblanco.com/health/ozone/animals.htm

Veterinary Use of Ozone by Citizen's Council for Truth in Medicine, Washington, DC

Part I - Viral (Rickettsial and Chlamydial) Diseases (VRCDs)

"Ozone is very effective in acute and chronic viral diseases as a virucidal agent in reversing positive antibody tests and in improving the general health of the animals.

"Ozone is the treatment of choice of Equine Infectious Enema (EIA, Swamp fever) and promptly reverses the clinical symptoms and a positive Coggins test. Ozone is equally effective against Equine Ehrlichiosis and Potomac Horse Fever, caused by the rickettsial agents Ehrlichia equi and E. risticii respectively, as well as against Equine Encephalomyelitis (EE) including Eastern (EEE), Western (WEE), Venezuelan (VEE) and other togaviral and flaviviral EE, Equine Viral Arteritis, African Horse Sickness (AHS), Equine Herpesvirus I (EHV-1) infection..."

Replied by Whisperingsage
Northeastern California, US
41 posts

A lot of missed marks right here. First understand e.coli is a natural, normal gut bacteria. Understand that when one is reported with a bunch of numbers behind it, it has been created in the lab. First go to americangut dot org and look up the Hadza hunters article- you will see they rub gut contents all over their hands to "wash" them. They ate the guts too, raw. These are not the only people to do this sort of thing. Weston Price reported many hunters that did this and ate the guts.When my baby goats are readying themselves to eat roughage they "inoculate" their guts with the bacteria of the pen which is decomposed poo by eating "dirt". I couldn't imagine they didn't already pick up plenty before then, but they feel they must do this. Look up the NY times article on the trillions in the gut, very well covered. How our health relate to the gut flora, how we relate to each bother, how our pets contribute.How obese flora differ from normal weight flora and how bodies change when this transplantation deliberately is done.

And second I really urge you to go to soilminerals dot com and look up the soil mineral balancing method- understand that the selenium isn't going to be in the feed unless it is first in the soil. And many soils are selenium deficient. Some are toxic. Look up Willaim Albrecht and his free paper online- and Neal Kinsey and "Hand On Agronomy". And any of the Pat Coleby books on livestock- yes, she has one on horses. But she is really into the mineral supplementation and I have worked her program on my goats, sheep and chickens/rabbits and ducks and have found it to be excellent.

Know that selenium deficient soils are going to produce vitamin E deficient plants. Rice bran has both in abundance because of how it is raised. Also know the two most important minerals are calcium and magnesium, and the deficiencies of these can cause a whole host of defects and death.

Replied by Constance

How does magnesium & calcium effect recovery from potomic fever and the prevention of it? Also, what other minerals & vitamins would be crucial to potomic fever prevention...enzymes, probiotics also, etc.?